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Me: Tell me how this world come into existence if there is no creator.
Atul: Ha, ha ha. Why you all religious peoples ask same question? Anyhow. You answer me first. If without creator nothing can exist then who created the God? How he can exist without creator? I can explain existence of universe without God using Science.
Me: (I interrupted ) God does not need creator by definition. He is neither born and nor created. He existed for even.
Atul: How do you know that?
ME: It is written in Quran and hadees books.
Atul: This is call circular argument. Without proving your scripture, you are using it as authority. By definition is not a logical answer. Show me the evidence.
Me: God is transidendent . He created the universe so he must be out of the universe right.
Atul: Now you are making special pledging. When everything else exist inside the universe, how you can possibly claim that something exists outside it. My friend extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. But I am sorry you have produce nothing to support your belief. You just have a blind faith on your religion.
Me: Do you have proof of evolution? Or what happened before big bang?
Atul: We are talking about Atheism not about Science. This is common misconception that atheism depends on Science specially evolution. However, that is not true. There were atheist in Roman, Greek and ancient Indian civilizations. Atheism did not came from science. Science came from atheism. When people started asking question and searching for answers without invoking god, then science came into existence. Science gives rational and logical answer and most importantly, results are experimentally verifiable. Religions are only based on blind faith. I believe so it is.
ME: So if you do not need science, tell me how you come to this world. Who made it and why there is something rather than nothing.
Atul: Now you are asking question from classical philosophy-why there is something. My friend there can be two condition. 1) There exist something, 2) Nothing exist. If there will be nothing we will not sit here and discuss about something. Nothing can exist but fortunately or unfortunately something exists and we are here. Our existence is a proof that something always existed. Whether it was low energy level quantum fluctuations or hydrogen gas or dark matter and energy or whatever say creator for your sake. Because logically, something cannot come from absolute nothing. You must be aware of law of conservation of mass and energy. Matter and energy keep on transforming. Coming back to your question, just because you can frame a grammatically correct question does not mean that question is logical. For example: If I ask you what is the size of your sorrow? Philosophically, you can think over it for ages, but logically it has not meaning. What is the color of jealousy? This is another such question.
Regarding your first question, I came from my parents. I was not present when this world was formed. I do not know can be my answer as an Atheist. However, science is my best bet to know about formation of world because science is testable.
Me: How you can rely on science when it keep changing. Newtonian Physics replaced by Einstein theory of relativity. Every day we see someone proving some scientific theory wrong and proposing new theory.
Atul: This is the beauty of science that we can challenge wrong theory or better call hypothesis. Even today we use Newtonian Physics for all practical purposes even for launching rockets or for sending probes to mars. Einstein only prove that when we reach speed of light, Newtonian Physics does not gives accurate result. So, it is an approximation of theory of relativity. Scientist are also human. Do not expect divinity from them. I do not rely on Science. I rely on my senses.
Me: Earlier you said your Atheism does not depend on science, so why are you Atheist? Just to enjoy your life?
Atul: (Smilingly) I have many religious friends who are enjoying life equally because they do not take religion seriously to die for. So, I do not have to be atheist to enjoy life. I am atheist because religions and their so called divine scriptures like Vedas for Hindus does not make sense for me. They are outdated books written by some intellectuals of that time. However, at present they do not contain any truth. Science has surpass all the information available in these scriptures. There is nothing in scriptures that point to divine revelation.
I am agnostic because there is no point in living in ignorance and dreaming about a world, which does not exist. Religion is like opium. It gives you fake consolation and dreams of heaven and hell.
Me: You agree that Religion gives consolation. Whether fake or real is different story. What your issue is in becoming religious even if it is not true. There is always some chances that it may be true.
Atul: Answer will be very long; I will try to explain in short. Firstly, mind once stretch by an idea never regain its original shape. I tried one time to be religious again for the sake of my parents and sister. They love me so much and keep insisting me to come back to religious faith. I tried hard but something inside my mind rebel strongly. Every time I went to temple, my mind start asking question why I am here. Why I am praying to a stone idol? When I read my scripture or someone praise religion in our home for some stupid reason I feel very angry. Finally I give up. I can’t even pretend to be religious. I said sorry to my parents and luckily they understand my situation. I am lucky that I have so much loving parents and sister. I know many Atheist, mostly Muslims whom their parents and family members never accept. This is not good.
Me: If you find your son drinking poison, will you not stop him.
Atul: Yes, I will, but who are you to judge what poison is for him. May be what you are offering him is a slow poison. Also, I am not talking about kids, I am talking about adults. At least they should have freedom to choose what is right for them.
Me: Parents always know better. They think for your good.
Atul: Not always. Actually new generation in most of the cases is smarter than old generation. Because new generation has knowledge of old generation. Thus, It will be wrong to assert that parents are always right or they know more than us. Yes, they can have more experience in some field but not in all.
Me: Are you suggesting that parents should let their children to do whatever they want to do. Whether moral or immoral?
Atul: No, I am not saying that. Parents should always be there to guide them but must not force them. Encourage them to ask question and find solutions. Once they reach critical thinking age, let them decide for themselves. One that is force is never forceful. Parents must stop indoctrinating their children.
Me: I do not have blind faith in my religion; I read my holy book and find many scientific things written in Quran 1400 years ago. How it can be possible if it is not from creator? For example: It is mention in Quran that earth is spherical and everything revolve it its orbit. These are recent discoveries. How they can be found in Quran?
Atul: You seems to watch Zakir Naik videos. I too saw some of his videos. He has good memories but always misguide people using wrong information. All this claims you are making are already de-bunk on internet. Please watch them yourself. Further, tell me one thing. If everything was written clearly in your Quran, why no come up with heliocentric model of solar system? Why till 15th century people keep believing in geocentric model? Give me name of one arab scientist who was confirmed about the shape of earth in 12 th century when Arabs were most advance.
Me: I have to check that. I am sure there must be some.
Atul: Sure, please google it and do your research first before telling me stories.
Me: Why you are talking in such a rude manner? I am not telling you stories. It is fact. Many doctors convert to Islam after reading Quran.
Atul: People convert for different reason, but it does not prove anything. Many people leave religion as well. People are afraid to come out in public because of fear of being killed. Religious people always dominate the world.
Me: Yes because religion is true and Atheism is false. Why majority of world population believe in religion if religion is not true?
Atul: Do you think majority is always right? Truth is majority is always wrong until educated properly. Majority is illiterate. Majority lives in villages where there is no access to scientific education. Until 15th century for majority of earth population, universe was as big as our solar system. Everything what we know today is discovered in last 200 years. There was a time when majority believed that earth is flat. Let me try to make you understand from another perspective. Tell me how many religions are true in this world.
Me: Islam is the only true religion in the world.
Atul: How many people follow Islam?
Me: around 1.2 billion. What is your point?
Atul: Just wait please. This population contain both Shia and sunni right.
Atul: Do you believe either are correct or any one?
Me: Of course, Sunni are correct. Shia came later.
Atul: There are around 200 million Shia in world. Correct me if I am wrong. Thus, total sunni’s will be 1 billion. Total world population is 7 billion. Hence, majority is not following Islam. Roughly, 15% follow Islam. According to you only Sunni Muslims are correct. Hence, majority is not following true religion that means majority is wrong according to your belief.
ME: That is very clever. However, Majority believe in some sort of Creator where as you do not.
Atul: I am agnostic. Therefore, I do not negate creator. However, there can be two type of god. Theist and Deist. Theist is like god you believe in. He is sustainer and creator. Whereas Deist God is creator but does not interfere in created world. Creator may exist but I have problem with religion. Religions are manmade. See, one of the reason you believe in religion is that it gives you answers about creation of world. However, world can be created by a deist god too or perhaps by some Aliens far more advance than we do. Who knows, life on earth might be result of some experiment! I do not find any strong reason to believe in theist god.
Me: I disagree. If you will make something, you will care for it and look out for it. You care about your children or not. By children, I remember one more thing. I heard some atheist eat babies. I do not believe that, but without religion how they can be moral being.
Atul: I wanted to finish this debate here, but you bring something horrible. Have you seen any cat eating a cat? A loin eating its own babies? Thinking that someone is eating babies because he or she does not follow a religion is the most stupid thing. You do not need religion to be morals. Indeed, some religious morals are disgusting. Like in Hinduism, there is cast system, In Islam there is sex slavery. In Christianity, your confession will wipe out your sins. Using contraceptives is consider as against will of god. What kind of morality is this? Slavery was allowed in almost all-major religion at one point of time. Do you believe slavery is moral? Owning one person as property is ethical for you. We are human and me and people like me drive morals from humanity using logical arguments and debates. I personally do not know anyone eating babies. However, I know many religious people who killed babies to make god happy.
Coming back to first part to your question about caring for things we made, firstly you should stop equating god with some common human. Because you believe in a god who created billions and billions of galaxies consists of billions of stars and each star has some planets and each planet has different size and geography. Out of all these planet at least on one planet life exists. Millions of animals are living on this planet. Each animal is different from other and contain microscopic gene which contain DNA and this DNA contain instruction for life.
Anyone who has so much power to create such a big and complex universe will not be similar to us. He will be infinite times intelligent and more powerful than any human on earth. Hence thinking about him in human term is absolutely wrong.
If we leave aside religious information about God, we know nothing about him or her. We can only predict his behaviour by looking to his creation. Look at the world population. Millions of babies are dying every year from starvation and disease. Many species extinct every year. Thousands of people dies every year due to natural calamities like flood, earthquake, Storm and extreme cold and hot temperature. If god is sustainer and loved humans, there will not be any of these. For me better explanation will be that the creator created the universe, set its rules and left it. Or, some Aliens created life on earth and later on they might be exterminated. There is no reason to believe in theist god who care about human being after observing the condition of this world. Why a benign god will let children die.
Me: Everything happens for a reason. When peoples start indulging in sin, then only God destroy them. Those children who die early will directly go to heaven. God did everything for good. We do not have so much intelligence to understand it.
Atul: Why those children were even born if they have to go to heavens without doing anything? What about their parents who suffer so much due to their child’s illness and finally death?
Me: My friend, as you might know, this life is a test. Those who are true to their lord remain steadfast and always praise god whatever be the situation. God will reward such people with rewards more than they ever think in after life.
Atul: Again, you are going in the realm of faith, which I cannot check objectively. You can believe anything that does not hurt others. However, I am not convince. You asked me so many question, can I ask you some question. We still have an hour.
Me: You can ask question, but just remember one thing. I am not expert (Aalim) of my religion, so I may not be able to answer your entire question. If you really want to learn about Islam, I can give you nos. and address of experts.
Atul: No, I do not need experts. Most of your religious experts I saw on tv does not know about science. Don’t worry we are not playing game where if you were not able to answer then you will lose and I will win. Let us do friendly discussion with open mind. I have no interest in making you atheist.
Me: I have very strong faith, so do not worry, you cannot change my mind. J I will be happy to answer your question.
Atul: You just now said that life is a test and this is very important idea in Judeo-Christian and Islamic theology. When god is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent, why didn’t he knew before starting the world who will pass the test and who will fail in the test. He is the one who created human . If you create something, you must know about it. If he knew everything in advance, which he must as he is the creator, then what is the point of making this world?
Me: God has all the answers. I am just a human with limited knowledge. Pls. ask something else.
Atul: Is faith right way to follow religion? I mean, all religious people follow their religion based on faith. Why they are wrong and you are right?
Me: I am fortunate to born in true religion. I am not blindly following my religion. I read Quran and other religious books. They actually make sense. No one has answers to every question. However, when I read other religious scripture, I find lot of inhuman, immoral and illogical things.
Atul: Have you ever think why you can see those immoral things in others religion but followers of that religion do not?
Me: Yes, because they are bias towards their religion.
Atul: Right. And what about you? Are you not bias about your religion? May be you are not able to see what’s wrong in your religion because you too are bias!
Me: I never think about it. Moreover, not everyone is born Muslim; Islam is one of the fastest growing religion. Definitely, those new convert to Islam from other religions are not bias about Islam. They read, understand, ask questions and then embrace Islam.
Atul: Even Atheism is spreading very fast. Does that make Atheism true if it is not true already? As I said earlier, people convert for various reason. In South India, so called untouchable and backward class Hindus are embracing Christianity and Buddhism in protest for their human rights. Some Christians also offer jobs and money to poor non-Christian to convert. In some Muslim Arab countries non-Muslim, embrace Islam for getting better facilities and benefits. In US and Europe, African American are mostly embracing Islam because of discrimination they face by white people.
Most of the peoples convert to other religion because of emotional reasons rather than logical reason. Therefore, please come out of your imagination and face the reality.
ME: We all will face reality after we die. Nice meeting you. I am a blogger; if you permit, I would like to publish our conversation.
Atul: Sure. Please publish without editing any part, so that readers can decide on their own.
Me: Rest assure about it. Here is the link for my website. Can I have your mail id or Mobile no?
Atul: I prefer to remain anonymous. Thanks for bearing with me. I enjoy talking to you.
Me: Pleasure is all mine. Any time you want to learn about Islam, please message me and I will arrange some expert for you.
Atul: Oh, thanks. Keep reading books.
Me: Thanks for your advice. Good luck for your future. Hope we meet some day.
Atul: Good Bye!!!
He moved to his path and I moved to mine.
Disclaimer: Please do not read it if you are allergic to truth or criticism. This post is for those who care for truth. My intention is not to disrespect or hurt anyone. However, Religion is sensitive issue for its follower, so even mild criticism can hurt them.
This is my third post about Christianity. I love Christians. In general, they are wonderful, peace loving and lovely people. May be that is the reason I am more concern about them. There are several reason why Christianity does not make sense to me.
- Christian churches are full of false propaganda and lies: Churches are not only corrupt but also spreading all types of lies. They use money to convert poor people’s living in developing and under developing countries to Christianity.
- Christianity is against human nature: Air, food, water, cloth, sex and shelter are basic needs of human being. If you do not provide them legitimately, people will find ways to get them illegitimately. Putting restriction on marriages for Pope, Father, Nuns and other clergy cause more harm than good. Churches backyard became graveyard of newborn babies.
- No original copies of Hebrew Bible exists. Only translations are available. During translation, that too were changed.
- Bible prophesies coming of another Prophet. Even after 2000 years, Christians were not able to find him. Why God wants a population of around two billion Christian to live in ignorance for so long period? There is no time in religious history when no Prophet came for 2000 years without any reason! As most of the Jews failed to recognise Jesus as messenger, Christian failed to recognise Prophet Mohammad! In that case, all Christians are following wrong religion.
- Ever since churches came into existence, they forced biblical worldview to its adherent even without confirming it. Just based on blind faith in Bible, which was already corrupted, they want every Christian to believe that earth is 6000 years old and it is centre of universe. They burn and forced people to change their views for hundreds of years until it was proved that earth is not centre of universe.
- Christian believe that Jesus Christ died a painful death to redeem us from original sin. Moreover, they believe Jesus christ is son of God and he himself is a God. If he is God why he can’t forgive everyone for the sins without sacrificing himself? Is he not capable of forgiving without sacrifice? Who made this rule, which he need to obey?
- After making the universe, God rest on the seventh day! For detail refer to my earlier post by clicking here.
- If you confess your sins in front of a pope in church confession box, your sins will be wiped out. In any religions, this is the simplest way of forgiveness I found. If forgiveness is so easy, no one will be afraid of punishment and everyone will involve in mischief.
- Bible supports slavery, misogyny, killing of non-Christian, Genocide, sexism etc. Some Verses are quoted below:
Samuel 15:3: “This is what the Lord Almighty says … ‘Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’ “
Moses’s call to kill witches, in Exodus 22:18: “Do not allow a sorceress to live.”
Ephesians 5:22, “Wives, submit to you husbands as to the Lord”; and similar advice for slaves in 1 Peter 2:18: “Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.”
Exodus 21:20-21 – “If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.”
Exodus 35:2 – “For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death.”
Christian Apologist always defend such quotes from bible as cherry picking. However, Even if one thing is wrong or immoral in whole scripture of any religion, the whole thing is wrong. God does not make mistakes. No divine scripture can contain immoral and false information. Calling it cherry picking will not serve the purpose. Christian must accept that Bible is corrupted, and contain passages written by humans.
We are living in a free world; most of the countries obtain their freedom more than fifty years back. Most of us living today are born in free countries. But are we really free? Relations, religions, caste, society, nationality and morality everything put restriction on us. Although we are living in free nations, yet we are enslaved by different restrictions.
As soon as you impose restriction on an artist, (s)he cease to give extraordinary performances. If a writer starts thinking that I must not write on this topic else someone might be offended then ultimately he will not be able to write anything. Creativity demands freedom. That is the reason, why we find all development in liberal and open societies.
My geographical location restricts me from openly writing about religion. Even mild criticism, for bringing positive outcome, can be dangerous. On top of that, I have self-imposed restriction of not writing anything derogatory or hateful about anyone. From last three days I am looking for something positive and motivating but unfortunately I am still struggling.
What is the purpose of freedom of speech if people are not able to digest mild criticism of their faith or opinion? If you will hide behind your private wall of faith and does not listen to others, you will never know whether you are wrong or other person are wrong. Just by chance, you born in your present religion. Without knowing it, how you can be certain that you were born in right religion. Read your religious books yourself. Learn about it before blindly believing on it. Be a truth seeker, not a blind believer.
Around the world, different politically motivated people tried to establish an extremist religious Government. However, none of them was able to last longer. Take the example of Taliban in Afghanistan, after years of wars, finally they establish a hard line radical Islamic Government. Within a few years most of the citizen starts feeling suffocating. World has changed. People needs freedom to choose what is right for them. Most recent case is of Saudi Arabia. As petroleum price crumbled, Saudi Government realise need for modernisation for the progress of country.
When whole world is liberalising, India alone is moving backward towards hard line Hinduism called Hindutva! Majority of Hindu’s do not want it, however some greedy peoples who wants to rule India since independence but were always rejected by majority wants to use Hinduism as a tool to rule the nation. They have no concern about goodwill of nation and its development. Their focus is power. RSS and its political wing BJP are two such big organisations along with dozen small organizations that are spreading poison of communalism in the mind of Indian youth. They teach wrong history to their innocent young followers. Their mode of operation is similar or inspired by German Nazi’s. Fortunately or unfortunately there is one distinction. They are not real patriotic. That can explain why it took BJP seventy years to gain full majority in election. Even after having full majority they were not able to fulfil 10% of their promises. The only good policies or reform they implemented are brainchild of previous Congress government. When BJP was in opposition, they oppose GST and FDI. As soon as they came in power they implemented both policies abruptly.
A nationalist and true Hindu favouring party could have done wonders for Indian Hindus. They could have opened hundreds of Hindu universities. At least they could have solved Babri Mosque issue in favour of Hindus within a year. Uniform civil court is one of the main agenda in BJP manifesto. However even after having full majority nothing has been done in last four years. This proves that BJP is not serious about Hindus or National development. They are only serious about election and promoting RSS agenda and supporting few Baba’s like double shree and Ram dev.
BJP Government under leadership of Mr. Modi is only making promises. Mr. Modi is one of the most successful politicians of 21st century in India. He has incredible ability to distract public attention from real issues of development, unemployment, farmer’s suisides and infrastructure development. He has amazing friendly relations with big business magnets. 56” chest, red eyes and ability to answer Pakistan in their language makes him distint fromprevious Prime Ministers. Not only Pakistan, Mr. Modi showed his strength to China in Doklam.
BJP and RSS are using Hindutva as a Chewing gum, distributing it to masses. Initially when they chew it, it feels sweet and innocent people forget their misery and problem for some time. They just enjoy the taste. But soon will be a time when sweetness of this chewing gum will vanish and they have to face reality. That time they will not be able to swallow it or spit it. They have to continue chewing without any taste.
2019 election will be the most important election for India since independence. India citizen has to choose whether they want a fake Hindutva party or a Pseudo secular party? Choices are limited. In my view, instead of voting for any national or state party vote for candidate. Vote for an honest, non-criminal candidate with good previous record of serving peoples. Don’t worry about how government will be formed or which party will win. Coalition governments are better than single party having full majority and ruling like dictatorship. “Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely”.
Your vote is valuable. Vote based on real issues we are facing daily. Vote based on 5 years performance of elected government. Do not cast your vote based on last year achievements or based on propaganda and “JUMLA”. Cast your vote based on economic development, unemployment rate, petrol prices, education standard, infrastructure development, inflation rate and GDP to name a few parameters.
First of all thanks for those people who piss me off by their flawed arguments and illogical content. It gives me new ideas to write a new post. This Post is about concept of God in various religion and culture and how wrongly we start writing or talking about God without explaining first which God we are talking about? There are theist, deist and agnostics. All of them believe in some kind of creator. However, every group has different concept of creator. Even in each group, different religion has different views or belief about Creator.
Normally, we do not translate names when we translate text from any language to English. However because of Christianity being most populous religion and English being international language from centuries the word God is being used for all Gods of different religions and even for Gods with different attributes. Not only that, it also has a plural and feminine form. I will use Supreme Being for the God in this post to differentiate the God of Christianity from other religion.
In Islam Supreme Being is known as Allah. Allah ever exists. He is neither created nor born not will die. He does not have any wife, son, daughter, mother or father. He is the one, nothing is like him nor is he like anything.
“He did not beget (give birth) and He was not begotten (given birth to).” (Surat Al-Ikhlas, Chapter 112, verse 3).
There are many other attributes of Allah which need to be considered to properly define who Allah is. For example, Allah is forgiving, merciful, just, omnipotent and omnipresent. He has not made any demigod or goddess or anyone who has share in his powers.
There is a mark difference in the definition of Allah and Christian God. A Christian God first and foremost is believed to have a begotten son. The Son himself is a god! Not only that, there is a holy spirit which is also part of God himself. In this way, Christians believe in trinity. Hence, translating God as Allah or Allah as God is wrong practice.
Coming to Hinduism, Hindus also have concept of one Parabrahman or Supreme Being. However, his nature is unknown. He created other Gods and goddess who took birth on earth as their Avatars. Like Ram and Krishn were believed to be Avatars. One of my fellow blogger told me “ There are five eternal entities. (1)Jiva – the creatures, (2) Ishwar- the deities which include indra, brahma, Vishnu, Shiva and all. (3)Maya- the only non living entity which controls time and our actions. (4)Brahman (Akshar/chidakash/satchitanand) the cause of creation of infinite universes. (5) Parabrahman/Purna-purushottam/Adi Vishnu : the one who transcends all and even Akshar. Although Akshar is the highest entity, Purna Purushottam is the one who transcends Akshar.”
From above, you can see there is not just one God doing everything in hindu mythology. There are layers of God. Translating Hindu God as “God” is wrong. However, people do it all the time for simplicity or because of influence of English and Christian religion. It is like translating Modi as Trump in English. It is absurd to translate names. It is more absurd when we translate any other religious deity or supreme being as God. Before starting any argument or debate about God, we must first define which God we are talking about!
There are several reasons based on which you can believe in any particular religion. Some of them are the direct source of faith and others are indirect, and there are some which just provide strength to faith when it already exists. Is there any logic or reasoning involved or believers are inclined towards their religion? For example if one believe god exist because Science does not have all the answers to the mysteries of the world, then does it make any one particular religion true or all religion will have equal chance of being true? And if all religion has the equal chance to be true then why one believes in a particular religion instead of any other religion. Why do we make our mind that all other religions are not true even without learning about them? Does the existence of god gives any particular religion right to claim its divinity? Or are we just deluded? Let us check each of religious biases one by one on which religious faith is founded.
- Birth in particular religion:
Birth in a particular religion is the most common base of following a religion and yet it is the most bias towards the parental religion. It is very rare that we find a person who did intensive research before he found and embrace any particular religion. On the contrary, our parents told us what religion we born in and from the childhood we are labeled with that religion. They start embedding religious values, virtues and practices and fear of god in our subconscious mind. When we grow up, we start looking towards the world through colored glasses of faith that are permanently fixed on our eyes. Our brain accepts no logic against our religion, but if exactly same thing we found in other religion, we criticize it unknowingly. We accept all illogical and inhumane practice of our religion as sacred, moral, unquestionable and without any doubt as embedded by our society and family. Even without reading our scripture we believe everything written in it is true and good, based on our blind faith. We are so over confident and deluded that we neither feel any need to read our scriptures nor we check out what is written in others scripture.
We all are victims of bad parenting and so were they, and so will be our future generations if we will not abolish bigotry. It is something for which we should criticize parents, and we must learn from them and should not repeat same mistake with our children. There is no point in bombarding kids with religiosity before they developed critical thinking. Let them flourish first. Let them grow and go to school. Let them learn different views and then slowly you can tell them one’s religious views without forcing anything on them. Tell them, some believe that god exists some don’t and there are some other who are in doubt as they can’t disprove the existence of god. Let them grow to an age of maturity and let them decide what they feel more logical and rational. We should be there in case they need some help or if they reach to some inhuman, illogical conclusions. That will be more sensible parenting, rather than imposing your views without knowing yourself why you believed and follow them!
Leaving aside the question whether or not blind faith or just faith is the right way to follow religion, the very first question which must strike in every one’s mind is this- “Does my birth in this particular religion makes it true? Is it not a wishful thinking? Does God approve this plan? Should not I make an enquiry of available scriptures, in the light of Science, claimed to be written or inspired by god himself? Am I deluded like billions other who feel their religion is true because their parents say so or because they born in that particular religion?
It is possible that you are the lucky one (one out of thousand) who born in a true faith by chance, which is very improbable, but more chances are that you are not the lucky one! Therefore, the best way to judge whether you are born in the right religion or not, is by reading of your scriptures with full understanding and educating yourself scientifically. It will enhance your belief even if you are the lucky one and if you are not, you will be able to live life more realistically.
To be continue…
Please read till the end to find meaning of the post.
Once upon a time, there was a nomad tribe. Their leader had a book of guidance and a map to reach the ultimate place of bounty, pleasure and tranquility. On his deathbed, tribal leader gave book of guidance to his son and commanded him to live by the code of book and follow the right part as shown in the book and continue journey towered place of ultimate bliss! After the Leader of tribe died, his son become new leader. He buried his father and after few days of mourning, he continues the journey towards unknown and unseen world.
New leader also had an 18 years old son; he himself was 50 years old. There were around 200 more people flowing them. While travelling, they stop at some location for few weeks and perform different types of juggling and magic acts to earn living and then again move on in search of Place of Bliss!
Twenty years passed, they cover 90% of the journey, the new leader on his deathbed instructed his son same thing which his father instructed him. On that Rex-the son of new leader asked politely “ Father I will surely follow your instruction, but my loving father just tell me if we have any proof or evidence that the book we are following and the path which we are traversing is correct?” On his question father get angry and shouted on the son “Since the time of our forefather we are following this book, do you think they were wrong? Only you are intelligent. He continued, “This is a true book wherein there is nothing wrong written. We must take all peoples to that place of eternal bliss.” Son replied, “Father I believe you, please do not be angry. I promise you that I will go to that place.
After death of his father, Rex continued journey towards blessed place. He was ambitious and in hurry to reach there. Without taking any stopover, moved day and night. Few people leave him, but he was confident about his destination. On the way, some people stopped him and asked where he is going. He told them and asked them to come with him. However, those people laughed and told him there is no such place in the vicinity. Determined, Rex continued his journey.
Finally, he reached near to the destination. The same location as shown in map as blessed place. In his joy and delight, he started running towards it. There was a cliff and it was not possible to see beyond it. While running, he started dreaming about blessed place. Book mentioned it as most beautiful and wonderful place where no one will die or become old. Everything will be in abundance. There will not be any suffering and….
All of a sudden, he realized that there is no ground below his feel! He tried to make balance but it was too late. He was falling in the deep valley. He shouted-Save me! However, there was no one to save him. Many of those who follow him blindly also fell down with him. It was a very deep valley. While falling down he was cursing his father and that out dated book, which his ancestors were following. He was too late to realize all this. He though if he would have given heed to those passerby who told him not to follow this path he might not be in this condition. All his hard work go in vain. He saw pointed rocky ground beneath. He struck the ground, his body divided in to pieces, and he died.
This is a fake story. However, it contain a very important and powerful message. That message is:
Do not follow even your Parents Blindly. They can be wrong! At the end, you receive what you believe. You have time until your death to find and follow true path. Choose wisely not blindly!
Roman Emperor, Marcus Aurelius believed that the purpose of life is not pleasure, but equanimity, which means the ability to live with reason and self-control in any situation.
Will you agree if i say, “There is nothing good or bad. It is our thinking that makes it so.”. However, the preceding statement is nothing but truth. In this post I will try to prove it by different examples. You can argue, we may not have the sense of all exhaustive moral values but indeed we do know what is worst and what is best in terms of morality. My answer will be “not always”. As long as we will not fix a reference point, it is difficult to define anything good or bad. As soon as you fix a reference point for morality, it becomes relative! A relative morality is based on our thinking.
What more shameful, awful and evil you can think off than gang rape and torture and finally brutal murder of an eight year old girl, named Aasifa! Even after such a heinous crime, there were people trying to safe rapist. How it could be possible if Morals are absolute or objective? How any human can support such criminal if morals are absolute? Absolute morality is an illusion . Morals are relative. Normally, we consider humanity as our common reference point for morality; therefore, being human makes us feel that morals are objective. However, sometimes, truth is stranger than fiction. People who do not draw morality from human reference point and believe in religious morality as superior are killing human being for eating beef (Cow meat). If you are not a politically motivated Hindu so called Cow-Protector, will you do that? Will your family allow you to involve in such act? Will any human being support such inhuman act?
Consider one more example, we all agree killing a human being is wrong and immoral, but during war soldier’s kill each other and their Nation awards them with medals of bravery. Thus, good and evil are relative terms. While for religious people’s it is religion which dictates definition of good and bad, for non-religious peoples it should be humanity. Some Hindu’s can drink cow’s urine because it is sacred for him! Can you do the same? We live in a changing world, and we have evolved consciousness. We are not the same intellectuals as existed thousands of years ago. Now, you can’t confine women to homes and tell them your only role is to produce babies and please your husband .Human slavery is abolished. Only now we understand that child labour is bad. Children should be educated before sending for work. Above examples shows that morality is changing with time. Anything that change with time can not be absolute.
If morality is objective or absolute, our moral values should remain same even today as they were in past. If slavery was moral, thousand years ago, how it becomes bad now? This shows that morals are relative. One more example of morals being relative is different religion and their different rules about social life. In religions, God dictates morality. Wish of God and his commandment becomes highest moral ground. Different religion has different god and hence different moral standards. This definitely proves that morals are relative.
For many people such an elaborate explanation on this topic is not required. But in Indian sub-continent, it is very hard to make people believe that all religions are different and we will not go to heaven by following all religions. In 15th century AD arose Bhakti and Sufism movement in India. Though both were belongs to different religions (Bhakti to Hinduism and Sufism to Islam), both had same message of Hindu-Muslim brotherhood. At the same time, a new religion was founded in Indian subcontinent which preached that Hinduism and Islam both are true paths to reach god, this religion is called Sikhism.
There can be various ways to categorise religions. Here I am categorising religions based on no. of God it allowed to worship. Mainly there are three types of Religion:
- Monotheistic Religion like most of Abrahamic Religions, e.g .Islam and Judaism
- Pantheist or Idol worshippers like Hinduism, Jainism, Chinese religions such as Confucius
- Philosophies without God: Like Buddhism , Taoism
There can be at most one religion at a time which can be true. Reason is quite evident. If we analyse different religion we will observe, most of religion are different. They have two parts-one is spiritual and other is social. There are some similarities in social parts which give rise to this paradox of all religion are true and same, such as: always speak truth, never steal, never kill any human, help poor, give charity, take care of your elders, be kind etc.
Even in social parts, there are many marked differences in religions. Take the example of Islam with respect to Hinduism. Hinduism promote vegetarianism whereas Islam promote Non vegetarianism, Islam allow 4 marriages while in Hinduism monk and sadhus don’t want to get married and think it is something to avoid, they will be more pure if not married. There are some other Hindu’s who practice polygamy one women having more than one husband. In Islam, groom has to give dowry (Mehar) where as in Hinduism; Bride family has to give dowry. Hinduism has a rigid caste system, in Islam there is no caste system. Muslim buried their dead where as Hindu burned them. Still think both religions are same and made by same creator? Think again. How same creator can tell two different things to two different messengers or avatars?
Now if we observe spiritual part, which is real part of religion we found enormous difference between Islam, Hinduism Christianity.
Islam is strictly mono theistic religion, whereas Hinduism is not, while Christian believe in trinity. In Islam, Allah has no shape and image to compare, he neither has son nor has any wife. He is one and omnipotent –Creator of whole universe and everything within the universe; he is neither born nor will die. He can’t be worshipped as an image as he does not have any image. Hinduism is just opposite of it. They have many gods and goddess and they are not forbidden to worship any creation as each creation has part of god (ansh). Not only that, cow is sacred animal which is also worshipped. There is a very rigid caste system imposed by Hinduism.
Though Christian believes in one supreme god but at the same time believe that he has a son which differentiates Christianity from Islam. That son is none other than Jesus Christ. Besides God, they worship Son and Holy Spirit. But they do not worship creation and cow is not sacred for them so they are different from Hinduism and Islam. Hence, all the three religion has different perspective of God. Now let’s come to prayers.
Muslim prays 5 times a day facing towards Kabba in Mecca, Saudi Arabia. They do not worship any image and do not involve any mediator to reach god. Muslims have direct link to Allah through prayers. Whereas, in Christianity, Christ is the medium to reach god. Hindus also use all sort of Avatars and mediators to reach various gods, besides that they have thousands of other god and goddess to worship. They even worship forces of nature and animals. Their vadas are full of hymns of sun god, water and air god . Christianity does not have any such gods but believed in trinity. They do not have any caste system. They worship mainly on Sunday in church and praise God and his son. Most importantly, in Hinduism we found the concept of karma and reincarnation which is absent in Islam, Christianity and all Abrahamic faiths. In Islam and Christianity you live once and then on judgment day you will be resurrected. But in Hinduism, some believe, as in Buddhism and Jainism cycle of birth and rebirth continues till you attain moksha other Hindu believe in heaven and hell like all major religions .One more very big difference between Islam and other religion is that, Muslim believe on the authority of Quran that there is no other true religion left on the face of earth and Prophet Mohammad is the last messenger and hence everyone has to follow his teachings otherwise they will not go to heaven. Christian believes the same about Christ. It is only in India that a fallacy of all path lead to same destination is available which they must realize.
Many rivers can originate from different place and merge in same ocean but not all. Many paths can lead you to your destination but not all. In the same way all religion will not take you to the Supreme Being, the creator of universe. Some will make you go astray other will misguide you some other will take you to such a long journey that your life will finish but you will not reach to your destination. Only one path can take you directly to your creator. Every believer of God should follow that one path alone.
I can go on and on to explain how all religions can’t be true at a time and how they are different from each other. But I think this much difference is enough for any sane person with even little intelligence.
Some times while debating Science vs. Christianity, believer come up with the argument of fine tuning and condition required for the existence of life on earth. They argue that life of earth and even existence of universe is so improbable that it requires a God. Without believing in God it is impossible to imagine existence of life.Further, they argue that from more than fifty years Scientists are trying to find intelligent life in universe but still were not able to find life.
Christians fail to realise that this argument is common for all religions and thus should not be used by one particular religion to prove its correctness.
As long as there is not any demonstrable connection between A and B, existence of A does not, in any way, prove existence of B. Religious people’s keep making this mistakes.
- World cannot exist without a God
- Hence Christianity is true.
Even though, Christianity is biggest religion in terms of followers, but that does not mean there are no other religions in world which have the concept of God or gods and goddesses. Hinduism is the oldest religion and it too has a concept of gods. Islam is fastest growing religion and it too has the concept of one god which is different from Christian God because Christian God has a begotten Son. But Allah do not have son. So both must be different or you can say only one of them can be right. Most of the religions do have concept of God. But each God concept differed from other. Not only that, there can be two types of Gods- Theist and Deist. Theist is what religious peoples believe in. Theist God interact with its creation, whereas Deist God is just a creator. He is indifferent from its creation. This makes thing more complicated. Now, first Christians, who want to prove Christianity using fine tuning arguments, need to prove that god is not deist God. Secondly, they have to demonstrate connection between A to B.
One can argue, why only Christians have to demonstrate A is connected to B? Answer is simple. Only Christians are hiding behind such argument, thus they are the one to demonstrate it. Take the example of Muslims. They preach Islam based on Quran not based on fine tuning, same is true with Hindus, they preach Hinduism based on Vedas and other religious scriptures. Most of their religious leaders are not scientific literate like Christians do. So, they do not even know how improbable the self-existence of universe is. They only know what is written in scripture and preach the same.
Since Christians were pioneer in Science, from the last few centuries, hence their religious preachers know more science than others religious leaders in present time. Whatever in Science is favourable, they believe in it, rest they leave for scientific community to use for development of nation. A religion which killed scientist for believing in heliocentric theory instead of geo-centric theory is now using science to prove existence of god. Really world is strange place and god works in mysterious ways.
The biggest evil of all time that exists even today is blind faith- “a belief without reason and logic, which is unquestionable and without any evidence”. When you go deep into any religion with an open mind trying to understand it not just to criticize it, then only you realize how firmly, religious complexity bond its believers. The elaborate ways in which people perform prayers, the sacrifices made by their religious leaders, their history, stories of god and goddess, morality, miracles and philosophy of how to live life makes their follower to believe in it without need of any evidence. A believer fails to understand how so many things can be false altogether? The very first thought comes to his mind is How so many people’s following his religion from so long period of time can be wrong? If they look around them, they will find that majority of people on earth do not follow their particular religion, moreover, most of them do not see any logic and morality in it. So don’t fool yourself just by seeing large no. of member of your faith. If such people go deep into history of their religion, then they will surely find many people’s who revolted against their own religion but such revolt was suppress brutally in the name of god. Even today, be sure there are plenty of people’s dissatisfied with their religion. Such peoples keep following their religion to avoid any isolation from their society and family.
Blind faith whether in religion or any philosophy is cause of all genocides, inequality, ignorance towards Science and many wars were fought in the name of religion. Even though no religion teaches fighting each other in general, in fact, most of them teach peace. But, since all new religion face hatred, oppression and opposition in the beginning hence they also have some support for waging wars for oppressed people and in self-defence. A learned follower can differentiate between offence and self-defence, but those who try to use religion for political reasons and fighting, misinterpret it to innocent followers and create hate in their mind and justify killing in the name of god. It is due to the blind faith that such persons succeed in spreading hatred and making human kill other human being, burned their property and rape their women. No humanitarian religion will allow such animal like act. Having said that, it is also true that, Religion provides a fertile ground where crop of hatred can easily be cultivated and animal instinct inside human can be unleashed. It provides all the sources to be misuse for fighting and killing innocent people and most importantly hating other religious persons, and all this is possible due to blind faith.
Blind faith is contrary to religion itself. Because many modern religions make some prophecy that a new messenger or guide will come in due course of time. In the absence of open-mindedness, by no means, you can identify any such person because you are indoctrinated to believe in your religion alone with blind faith. So even if someone gives you proof of his or her truthfulness you will not going to believe. This is the reason, Jews didn’t believe in Christ and Christian didn’t believe in Islam and Muslims didn’t believe in Ahmadi sect when these Massiah or Prophet themselves claim their divine birth and perform miracles. Islamic and others religious scripture proclaim that a new messenger or IMAM will come in short time (Short time because as per religious prophecy, Judgment day will come soon).Even after that more than 1000 years past for different religions and no messenger or IMAM came to liberate the world except those who are believed to be false prophet or Imam. Is it not possible that he might already came and left you? But due to your blind faith you were not been able to recognize him? Even if he still needs to come, how with your eyes blindfolded with faith and your mind incapable of understanding anything else because of your blind faith will recognize him?
So, whether you consider with religious perspective or logical and scientific perspective blind faith is not good at all. If you have faith in unseen, like in god, heaven or alien then you can defend your faith, based on religion but if you negate things which are observable and scientifically proved just to defend your religion and attribute it to your faith, you are fooling yourself. You are going backward to dark ages instead of moving forward to light.
Blind faith put a blind fold on your eyes, your ears and your mind and you live a life of deaf, dumb and blind. The height of ignorance is that, there are religious believers who feel proud by saying that if my scripture says 1+1=3, then I will believe in it and not in what I learned in school. This is the extreme of blindness, where all argument, reason and evidence become irrelevant.
The important question is how to eradicate this age-old evil from our society? It can be done through education and spreading awareness about science. Firstly, we have to be educated about our religion and then about other religion. Whether anyone like it or not, but religions are going to stay with us .Hence we have to understand that it is not the religion or religious people but the blind faith which is the biggest evil of modern society and should be exterminated at the earliest.
Religious believers should stop presuming things and should come out of your wonderland and face the reality. Before you say anything about your religion first check you scriptures. Don’t presume about your own religion without knowing it. You might be thinking that you are following world greatest and most humanitarian religion based on the input received from your own priest, family and religious man but your thinking will not change the facts which are clearly written in your scriptures. Many times I hear stories from different people’s about greatness of their religion but the truth is they don’t know what is written in their scriptures because they never read their religious books. They all have second-hand information from those who themselves don’t know about the religion and believe on narratives of such persons. The thing which holds you back is the cost you would have to pay if your religion comes out to be false. But at the same time you must understand that there is no point in following false religion. Look for the true religion with open mind and follow it.